6/16/2015 BAC Engineering Subcommittee


6/16/2015 BAC Engineering Subcommittee


  • 4th St SE - Beverly Warmka (SRF)
  • Downtown Public Realm Update - Lacy Shelby (City - CPED)
  • Plymouth Ave N/8th Ave NE - Simon Blenski (City - Public Works)
  • Announcements

4th St SE (between Malcolm Ave SE and 29th Ave SE)

4th St SE between Malcolm Ave SE and 29th Ave SE is an area undergoing significant redevelopment in the near future, with plans for a grocery store as well as several apartment buildings along 4th St SE. The area was planned as an innovation district, but will likely look more conventional after conversations with property owners. Beverly Warmka sought recommendations from the BAC on two issues: 

  • Width of bike lanes and material used: The two options on the table were an 11' asphalt driving lane with a 5' concrete bike lane OR a narrower 10' asphalt driving lane with a 4' asphalt bike lane, and a 2' concrete gutter pan (6' total bike facility). Discussion on this topic included visibility of the bike lane, riding experience on different pavement material, longevity of pavement marking, distance from parked cars, and durability of the different combinations of pavement types. A motion for the 5' bike lane was defeated (2 votes for, 4 votes against), but a motion for 6' bike facility passed (4 votes for, 3 abstentions). 

  • Curb type: The two options discussed were a barrier curb or a surmountable curb. The BAC did not make a recommendation on curb type because it wouldn't greatly impact the bike facility.

This project will go before the City Council for approval in July, and construction on this project is slated happen in 2016.

Pathways to Places: Downtown Public Realm Update

The City of Minneapolis CPED and the Minneapolis Parks and Recreation Board (MPRB)are working to create a framework for the public realm in downtown Minneapolis, focusing on placemaking in downtown to increase safety and activity. 

MPRB is revising their Downtown Service Area Master Plan, and looking for assets that could be turned into a new park - either a large park, or a series of smaller pocket parks. CPED is working on a Downtown Public Realm Framework, bringing many small neighborhood initiatives together and combining with the protected bikeways plan and others to identify priority areas for improving the public realm in downtown Minneapolis. They're moving from collecting and assessing data to initiating a  community engagement process.

To give input and feedback to improve the downtown area, check out this interactive map and record your favorite downtown parks places and the routes you use to get there. Feedback will be accepted with this map until September 1, 2015.

The Downtown Public Realm Framework includes: 

  • Physical Framework
  • Developer Guidelines
  • Enhancement Toolkit
  • Event Programming Guide
  • Integrated Modes Guidelines
  • Implementation Guide 

The BAC brought up the importance of 3rd Avenue as a bikeway, the downtown bike center, and the impact that this framework will have for bikers in downtown, particularly discussing the importance of more bike parking as a core feature of downtown, not just an "amenity."

This framework will go before the City Council for adoption in December 2015. 

Plymouth Ave N/8th Ave NE  

The City is proposing to install a protected bike lane on Plymouth Ave N/8th Ave NE between Lyndale Ave N and 5th St NE. There is an existing protected bikeway across the river on Plymouth Bridge, but this project extends the protected bikeway west to Lyndale, and east to University Ave NE, then continues east as a bike boulevard to 5th St NE (due to lower traffic volumes and a narrower street). Protected bike lanes on Plymouth west of Lyndale Ave N to Fremont Ave N will be constructed when the road is resurfaced in a few years.

Parking will be removed from 8th Ave NE on the north side from Sibley St NE to University Ave NE, and on the south side from Marshall St NE to University Ave NE. The main challenge is that businesses along this stretch (Elsie's and the Yacht Club) use loading zones along 8th Ave, which could interfere with protected bike lanes. The City proposes to maintain a left turn lane from 8th Ave N to northbound Marshall St NE, meaning that the bike lane may be unprotected for half of that block. 

The Minneapolis Bicycle Coalition will be focusing on this project in the next few weeks because this route is an important connection between Northeast Minneapolis, North Minneapolis, and downtown. Keeping protected bikeways along this route is important, and the Coalition believes that a win-win solution can be reached.

This month the City will be doing community outreach with Elsie's and Catholic Eldercare, which has a new development planned that will have access to 8th Ave NE. 

The City will be at the St. Anthony West Annual Meeting in Dickman Park on July 9th at 6:30 pm to discuss this project with neighborhood residents.

Construction on this project is planned for 2015.


  • 2014 Regional Solicitation for Federal transportation funds administered through the Met Council (MAP 21) for 2017-2019 projects.
  • Bike Racks installed at Freehouse! Thanks to Joshua Houdek. 

The next BAC Engineering subcommittee meeting will be July 21, 4-6pm.

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  • commented 2015-06-25 16:25:46 -0500
    Great report! I’m glad you found the subcommittee interesting and helpful. See you next month!

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